They know they sent their flock to the slaughter. Won’t be long now. They’ll make the jump to all online so the members dying doesn’t seem so obvious if you’re not in person. This was no mistake of the GB, they knew and know exactly what they are doing. $$$
Freeorange
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1970's Russell Pyramid Photo!
by Atlantis in1970's photo of the russell pyramid.
the picture was sent to us by a former bethelite who was also the person who took the picture.
of course, the pyramid is not there anymore.. .
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Freeorange
Atlantis thank you for this! Is there any context of why they were there? Just checking it out or was it a Bethel thing?
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Finding Neverland
by Freeorange inadd bookmark.
#1. i have to start off this post by saying i am not intending to insult or offend.
these are just our observations over our entire lives in the org.
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Freeorange
I have to start off this post by saying I am not intending to insult or offend. These are just our observations over our entire lives in the org. It’s been discussed on here before that being in the truth in the 70s, 80s, and up to mid 90s seemed good! We had great friends, zeal for the ministry, and most importantly we were gonna be in paradise soon! No need for higher education, buying a house, or even braces - Jehovah will fix those crooked teeth soon! Our congregation had “October Frank” reminding us every October “This is it! The GT is gonna happen in October“! BTW Frank has been dead for over 10 years.
We were all determined to pioneer and not have children because “who would have children in this system?“. I recall the stir it caused in the late 80s at the SF convention when the brother‘s talk praised couples who remained childless for the sake of the good news! I’m from a very large family and the discussions after that were unanimous. I can see now that thinking deprived me and my siblings from having children and my parents from the grandchildren they never had. But that was all gonna be fixed in the new world so don’t think about it and just get back out in service.
Things started changing somewhere around the mid 90s. We live in a very affluent part of CA (born and raised here so it’s normal to us) and there are a lot of “pretty people” here. Think lots of cosmetic surgeries, fake lips, fake tans, hair extensions, etc. This began creeping into the congregation and by 2000s was the norm. About that time there was a flood of divorces and families rearranging. The double KH we attended became a child swapping fest with the divorced parents at the meeting in the two different halls and the kids running back and forth between them. There were also the childless couples who pretended to go on need greater preaching trips but were actually just exotic vacations and they took one token photo in front of the local KH. They were the rock stars and everyone wanted to be like them. It was not unusual to see the KH parking lot filled with mostly BMWs, Mercedes, and several Ferraris on Sunday. The crash of 2008 hit hard here. Many were losing their over financed homes and moving in with family. One assembly a couple we were close with were interviewed on stage and praised how they had decided to “simplify their lives“ by getting rid of their large expensive home to pioneer. That was a flat out lie! Their home was foreclosed on and they tried to hang on to it tooth and nail! Only after there was no saving it did they begin to spin the story all the way to the stage and their “good example“. 🙄
Through out the years we’ve noticed a significant amount of mental and emotional “issues” within the congregation. Almost as if a group arrested development is necessary to stay in the org and keep living in the last of the last days. As our group of friends are getting older and our parents are elderly and dying in this system and none of this was supposed to happen. It’s like everyone is living in two different worlds. Now the reality of no savings, no retirement plan, never bought a house. no children to care for them when they get older, and the years keep clipping away. For years the discussions always circled back around to the system can’t last much longer because the GB are getting older and the generation - right?
We now see many sisters in their 40s desperately trying IVF. Hardly ever do I work with a sister in my business and they’re not on some kind of anti anxiety or depression med. I know that’s a sensitive topic for many on here. I have worked with the public for years and it’s a disproportionate amount of witnesses vs non witnesses on these meds and many for decades. I had a sister in yesterday dealing with crippling anxiety and the depression of being in her 40s and still single. She could not stop crying at the thought of going back D2D but then the huge guilt of “not doing enough in the ministry”. She would even drive hours away into SF to get CBD so no one would see her and she begged me not to tell anyone. Trust me - not gonna say anything.
The arrested development we see among the sisters has been going on for many years and they encourage each other to stay in the childlike mindset. Many of the sisters have not only an obsession but an outright emotional dependence on all things Disneyland. 😳 Now I know a lot of people enjoy Disneyland and I’m not talking about the family vacation. I’m talking groups of adult, childless sisters that lived for Disney. They would plan multiple trips together per year without their husbands. They would sob and go into deep depression if they couldn’t go for any reason. Even going into debt or fighting with their husband about the expense. They wore the mouse ears like a crown for days and posted bizarre pictures of them hugging the Disney characters like they were friends. Their homes were covered in glass Disney figurines and they wore all the Mini Mouse clothing they could get away with. We have lived in multiple states on both coasts and this happened in many congregations.
In the car groups sisters would spend the morning singing the latest “original songs” from the broadcast often breaking into tears when they sang “Just around the corner” 🙄 and sometimes talk to each other in children’s voices. They couldn’t wait for the next Caleb video. I always assumed I was the one not trying hard enough to be close with them but I just couldn’t play along with their fantasy worlds. For the brothers it seems the org has focused for years on softening them down. The brothers have become so passive about everything except defending the GB. The men in the congregation are not allowed to have any real alpha qualities, perhaps that’s why we still have a no beard attitude. Can’t have strong males and maybe that’s why no elders pushed back on the v@x roll out. My husband has been so disappointed with his fellow elders and the men he looked up to. Not one would stand up to protect the congregation or even question what was happening. His talking with the other elders and the CO obviously has caused problems but we don’t care. He has often been counseled on being “too aggressive“ sorry, he’s not a house cat 🐈.
The real cherry on top happened this summer for us and the cruel reality of what the org does to peoples lives. Our long time friend died from the v, she’s the one that woke up paralyzed and died soon after. She had pioneered for close to 60 years, it’s literally all she lived for. I don’t have hardly a picture of her without a book bag in her hand. Her and I would be out till dark in service. Their only son left the truth decades before and they completely cut him off, they never got to know him of his family. When they got too old and sick he was called upon to come care for them, the parents he didn’t know now needed him. As we sat on her Zoom funeral watching the video of her life nonstop in the ministry while her old husband sobbed and the song “Just around the corner“ played over and over again like a cruel, final joke.
I know this is a long post. Just trying to make sense of a lifetime of weirdness that we just accepted as normal. Sorry if I struck a nerve for anyone. Maybe writing it out is a little therapeutic. -
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want to show support to a one time member
by enoughisenough ini put this under beliefs, doctrine, practices but it could well fit under coverups, i think.
anyway fyi and if you are interested, a one time member here , easyprompt now has a youtube channel :easyprompt_fragrantaddendum exposing wt...i have watched a couple of them, and they are well put together..
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Freeorange
This is great!
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GB pushed the vax
by Diedsuddenly ini remember during the pandemic the gb updates got progressively stronger pushing the vaccines .
they even had experiences of some who were reluctant to get them and then due to the gb keep saying fully vaccinated these poor jws went out and got all the catch ups shots and even all the boosters.
i remember someone making a compilation video showing all the gb update clips of the gb pushing the clot shots, even tony morris saying the words ‘go get vaccinated’.
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Freeorange
The GB can't ever walk this back. WT needs to burn to the ground - case closed.
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GB pushed the vax
by Diedsuddenly ini remember during the pandemic the gb updates got progressively stronger pushing the vaccines .
they even had experiences of some who were reluctant to get them and then due to the gb keep saying fully vaccinated these poor jws went out and got all the catch ups shots and even all the boosters.
i remember someone making a compilation video showing all the gb update clips of the gb pushing the clot shots, even tony morris saying the words ‘go get vaccinated’.
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Freeorange
Here’s a good one Mike!
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New website -Testimonies on the adverse events of anti Covid-19 vaccination campaigns among Jehovah's Witnesses.
by was a new boy in'jehovah's witnesses are heavily vaccinated due to guidance given from july to december 20211 by the governing body.many witnesses have had serious adverse effects following vaccination campaigns and, for the most part, have had great difficulty in expressing them and having them recognized.this website was made to allow each witness touched by these vaccination campaigns to express it so that the community takes it into account.'.
https://adverse-events-jw.org.
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Freeorange
This should do it!
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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes
by Vanderhoven7 ineric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.
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Freeorange
I have had many very frank conversations with a close friend who is still an elders wife. At this point I think she is PIMQ but is clinging on with both hands trying to make it work. After my husband and I faded she is one of the few that maintains contact and said she was totally fine with anything I had to say as her faith was firm and nothing I was telling her would change that. So I figured “why not?”.
I hit her with the 501c3, UN NGO, and WT’s financial ties to big pharma, etc. She has done some amazing mental gymnastics to keep making it work in her mind. We had very frank discussions about the vx in early 2021 and they were dead set against them. But of course the GB updates worn them down into taking them and they deeply regret it. They have experienced numerous health issues since including a major surgery for her. She acknowledges the GB was wrong to push them but still keeps saying they’re just imperfect men and this is still Gods true organization 🙄🙄
To top it all off her husband is now growing a beard but they insist it has nothing to do with the GB and he would have done it anyway - yeah right. I think it’s time I hit her with old Massimo. Will keep you updated!
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JW profit from disasters
by enoughisenough insome time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.
i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.
it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.
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Freeorange
EIE of course! I have no way to prove any of it, just our personal experience.
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JW profit from disasters
by enoughisenough insome time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.
i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.
it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.
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Freeorange
Magnum we find ourselves going down that angry path more often than we would like. We think about the homes, cars, time, and just straight up $$ we have thrown at the org. We are horrified we spent the prime income producing years of our lives driving around rural Appalachia in a Buick pioneering with people we couldn’t stand.
EIE we too were so embarrassed by the complete lack of empathy to anyone that was a non JW. We had so much food there onsite including a full on dessert display refrigerator stocked with all kinds of cakes and pies. The kitchen volunteers tossed anything that was more than three days old. The homeless would try and dig through the trash and the brothers always shooed them off.